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		<title>By: Kristi</title>
		<link>http://www.bendyson.com/the-cause-of-the-financial-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-2381</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Dec 2010 19:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my mind securitisation has made the problem much worse by speeding up the process of creating debt: http://blog.logicoffinance.com/2010/12/securitisation-fast-way-to-create-debt.html
Before money was debt. Now it&#039;s possible to create debt without creating money -- and do it fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my mind securitisation has made the problem much worse by speeding up the process of creating debt: <a href="http://blog.logicoffinance.com/2010/12/securitisation-fast-way-to-create-debt.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.logicoffinance.com/2010/12/securitisation-fast-way-to-create-debt.html</a> </p>
<p>Before money was debt. Now it&#8217;s possible to create debt without creating money &#8212; and do it fast.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Dyson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Dyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 08:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Fran,
I agree that changing the system is hard to do but it is the only option at the moment - it&#039;s only a matter of time. The battle now is to get the authorities to make the required changes (which can be found at &lt;a href=&#039;www.BankofEnglandAct.co.uk&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BankofEnglandAct.co.uk&lt;/a&gt;) before the next major collapse (which won&#039;t be far off).
The campaign will be launching very shortly (register at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.Call4Reform.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Call4Reform.org&lt;/a&gt;) so there&#039;s be a lot of things we can do very shortly.
There&#039;s already support for this in higher places that you might imagine, and some very influential people are taking an interest, so this is going to be a huge topic over the next few years (or months!).
Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fran, </p>
<p>I agree that changing the system is hard to do but it is the only option at the moment &#8211; it&#8217;s only a matter of time. The battle now is to get the authorities to make the required changes (which can be found at <a href='www.BankofEnglandAct.co.uk' rel="nofollow">BankofEnglandAct.co.uk</a>) before the next major collapse (which won&#8217;t be far off). </p>
<p>The campaign will be launching very shortly (register at <a href="http://www.Call4Reform.org" rel="nofollow">Call4Reform.org</a>) so there&#8217;s be a lot of things we can do very shortly. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s already support for this in higher places that you might imagine, and some very influential people are taking an interest, so this is going to be a huge topic over the next few years (or months!). </p>
<p>Ben</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Dyson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Dyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 07:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David, the £480,000 figure is an estimate of how much keeping the current system will cost for someone who is currently around 20 years old. It&#039;s complex but basically:
1. Housing - between 1997 and 2007 the average house price rose from £55,000 to £185,000. This rise in prices was almost all fuelled by the increase in the money supply by banks creating money when they make loans (about £612 billion between 2004 and 2007 alone, for example). So, by being able to create money and pump it into the housing market, the banking system has been able to increase average house prices by £130,000. This means that any student has to borrow an extra £130,000 in principal to buy a house. The interest repaid on a mortgage is comfortably 150% of the amount has been borrowed. So, the house price inflation will cost the average first time buyer £130,000 + £195,000 (in interest) = £325,000.
2. The cost of interest on the entire money supply. The current money supply is £2,200 billion. Because all that was created as debt, interest must be paid on the interest on £2,200 billion - say this is an average of 5% a year, that&#039;s £110billion per year. That interest is paid by companies, mortgage holders, and individuals who have debt (remember that someone has to hold the debt in order for there to be any money in the economy). If you&#039;re debt free, you&#039;ll still be paying some of that interest through the price of goods and services that you buy in the shop (since the company has to pay interest on its own debts). So let&#039;s do £110bn divided by 45 million (the electorate i.e. everyone over the age of 16) = £2,444 per year. Multiply by a working lifetime of 45 years = £109,980.
3. Taxes - when the Bank of England creates new bank notes, the Treasury gets the profit. When banks create money, the banks get the profit. As they created £1.2 trillion between 2000 and 2009, then that logically implies that the public had to be taxed by £1.2 trillion to cover that lost revenue. That would work out at £26,670 per adult in the UK over those ten years alone.
The £480,000 figures is a bit of a headline figure, but it&#039;s probably an understatement of the real costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David, the £480,000 figure is an estimate of how much keeping the current system will cost for someone who is currently around 20 years old. It&#8217;s complex but basically: </p>
<p>1. Housing &#8211; between 1997 and 2007 the average house price rose from £55,000 to £185,000. This rise in prices was almost all fuelled by the increase in the money supply by banks creating money when they make loans (about £612 billion between 2004 and 2007 alone, for example). So, by being able to create money and pump it into the housing market, the banking system has been able to increase average house prices by £130,000. This means that any student has to borrow an extra £130,000 in principal to buy a house. The interest repaid on a mortgage is comfortably 150% of the amount has been borrowed. So, the house price inflation will cost the average first time buyer £130,000 + £195,000 (in interest) = £325,000. </p>
<p>2. The cost of interest on the entire money supply. The current money supply is £2,200 billion. Because all that was created as debt, interest must be paid on the interest on £2,200 billion &#8211; say this is an average of 5% a year, that&#8217;s £110billion per year. That interest is paid by companies, mortgage holders, and individuals who have debt (remember that someone has to hold the debt in order for there to be any money in the economy). If you&#8217;re debt free, you&#8217;ll still be paying some of that interest through the price of goods and services that you buy in the shop (since the company has to pay interest on its own debts). So let&#8217;s do £110bn divided by 45 million (the electorate i.e. everyone over the age of 16) = £2,444 per year. Multiply by a working lifetime of 45 years = £109,980. </p>
<p>3. Taxes &#8211; when the Bank of England creates new bank notes, the Treasury gets the profit. When banks create money, the banks get the profit. As they created £1.2 trillion between 2000 and 2009, then that logically implies that the public had to be taxed by £1.2 trillion to cover that lost revenue. That would work out at £26,670 per adult in the UK over those ten years alone.</p>
<p>The £480,000 figures is a bit of a headline figure, but it&#8217;s probably an understatement of the real costs.</p>
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		<title>By: fran ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>fran ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your way of thinking and I would love to think that we could change the system....... but I think that the revolving door of personnel between political structures and big business will make it almost impossible to change. I will still try to support you but I am not optimistic.
So I am wondering what could we do that might be less radical that would also help? For example it struck me that when the FSA was proposing that mortgage limits of 3.5 times salary might be legally imposed, it struck me that that would have a dramatic effect on house prices and they would have to come down or remain unsold. But guess what the proposal disappeared without trace soon after it was mentioned and we all know why!
I am personally involved with trying to get more land into public ownership (for housing and food) via community land trusts: I see this as part of the idea of a parallel economy which might allow people to live decent and comparatively debt free lives.....
What can we each do ourselves (apart from trying to avoid bank led debt) that might help? Changing the macro economic system is just such a hard thing to do......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your way of thinking and I would love to think that we could change the system&#8230;&#8230;. but I think that the revolving door of personnel between political structures and big business will make it almost impossible to change. I will still try to support you but I am not optimistic. </p>
<p>So I am wondering what could we do that might be less radical that would also help? For example it struck me that when the FSA was proposing that mortgage limits of 3.5 times salary might be legally imposed, it struck me that that would have a dramatic effect on house prices and they would have to come down or remain unsold. But guess what the proposal disappeared without trace soon after it was mentioned and we all know why!<br />
I am personally involved with trying to get more land into public ownership (for housing and food) via community land trusts: I see this as part of the idea of a parallel economy which might allow people to live decent and comparatively debt free lives&#8230;.. </p>
<p>What can we each do ourselves (apart from trying to avoid bank led debt) that might help? Changing the macro economic system is just such a hard thing to do&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Midgley</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Midgley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 11:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
Really important campaign and I shall promote it through Schumacher North.
I heard about this through an email that was forwarded to me - in this you state that the average person reading the email will have to pay the banks £480,000 in interest (if I have understood correctly).  Can you tell me where you got this figure from?
Regards and best wishes,
David Midgley
Schumacher North</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Really important campaign and I shall promote it through Schumacher North.</p>
<p>I heard about this through an email that was forwarded to me &#8211; in this you state that the average person reading the email will have to pay the banks £480,000 in interest (if I have understood correctly).  Can you tell me where you got this figure from?</p>
<p>Regards and best wishes,<br />
David Midgley<br />
Schumacher North</p>
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